Comments on: This blog gets indignant http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2008/11/20/this-blog-gets-indignant/ Peaking under the Veil of Ignorance Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:40:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: aramkr http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2008/11/20/this-blog-gets-indignant/comment-page-1/#comment-386 aramkr Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:46:49 +0000 http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/?p=117#comment-386 There are, as I see it, two primary reasons for the institution of marriage. The first and more fundamental is for the healthy, orderly continuation of the species. The second is for the healthy and orderly pairing of individuals to establish the kernal of the social network for purposes of mutual support and companionship over the course of the individuals' lives in the larger society. If one of these purposes fails to be realized in the course of the marriage ( i.e., in the case of involuntarily childless marriages or marriages that turn loveless ) the value or the marriage may be salvaged by the other. But, I think, to enter into a union without both intentions is to do something other than to marry. If one begins to subsume these other intentional activities under the term "marriage" then the concept of marriage is adulterated and weakened and nothing of substance is gained in returned. In other words two women or two men cannot marry because the preconditions are not there. There are, as I see it, two primary reasons for the institution of marriage. The first and more fundamental is for the healthy, orderly continuation of the species. The second is for the healthy and orderly pairing of individuals to establish the kernal of the social network for purposes of mutual support and companionship over the course of the individuals’ lives in the larger society.
If one of these purposes fails to be realized in the course of the marriage ( i.e., in the case of involuntarily childless marriages or marriages that turn loveless ) the value or the marriage may be salvaged by the other. But, I think, to enter into a union without both intentions is to do something other than to marry. If one begins to subsume these other intentional activities under the term “marriage” then the concept of marriage is adulterated and weakened and nothing of substance is gained in returned.
In other words two women or two men cannot marry because the preconditions are not there.

]]> By: Punning Pundit http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2008/11/20/this-blog-gets-indignant/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Punning Pundit Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:35:43 +0000 http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/?p=117#comment-380 Why, you're right Aramkr! The anti-Prop-8 protests are certainly not an outraged reaction to having fundamental rights stripped from a section of our society which had previously enjoyed those rights! Silly me for thinking otherwise... Please do feel free to give me a single rational reason why two men-- both of sound mind and over the age of 18-- should not be able to marry. Why, you’re right Aramkr! The anti-Prop-8 protests are certainly not an outraged reaction to having fundamental rights stripped from a section of our society which had previously enjoyed those rights! Silly me for thinking otherwise…

Please do feel free to give me a single rational reason why two men– both of sound mind and over the age of 18– should not be able to marry.

]]> By: aramkr http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2008/11/20/this-blog-gets-indignant/comment-page-1/#comment-379 aramkr Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:32:37 +0000 http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/?p=117#comment-379 No one , including Michelle Malkin, has any trouble understanding the "outraged demonstrations", They are transparent attempts to drown out all opposition to gay marriage without the need for rational discourse. The moral difference between lawyers and gays is that gays are not professionally precluded from being moral. There is no legal difference between lawyers who are married to members of the opposite sex and gays married to members of the opposite sex consistent with the the law and the meaning of marriage. No one , including Michelle Malkin, has any trouble understanding the “outraged demonstrations”, They are transparent attempts to drown out all opposition to gay marriage without the need for rational discourse.
The moral difference between lawyers and gays is that gays are not professionally precluded from being moral.
There is no legal difference between lawyers who are married to members of the opposite sex and gays married to members of the opposite sex consistent with the the law and the meaning of marriage.

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