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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material Third Sunday in December 2012- Winter is Coming Edition by Josef Melton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josef Melton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m all for people talking about access to better mental health.  So as soon as someone makes that argument to me, I&#039;ll tell them you&#039;re absolutely right, we do need better mental health care...and gun control.

It&#039;s not an either/or argument, nor should it be.

Oh, and I doubt that any challenge to the volume issue would find any traction, because there is no first amendment issue.  Just because we allow all speech doesn&#039;t mean we are required to allow people to yell into our homes.  Use of bullhorns and amplification devices are also restricted in a very similar fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m all for people talking about access to better mental health.  So as soon as someone makes that argument to me, I&#8217;ll tell them you&#8217;re absolutely right, we do need better mental health care&#8230;and gun control.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an either/or argument, nor should it be.</p>
<p>Oh, and I doubt that any challenge to the volume issue would find any traction, because there is no first amendment issue.  Just because we allow all speech doesn&#8217;t mean we are required to allow people to yell into our homes.  Use of bullhorns and amplification devices are also restricted in a very similar fashion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weighed and found wanting by Indignant Desert Birds &#187; Sunday Morning Reading Material Third Sunday in December 2012- Winter is Coming Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indignant Desert Birds &#187; Sunday Morning Reading Material Third Sunday in December 2012- Winter is Coming Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their lives. 20 American school children were shot and killed this week- on the very same day. Guns it turns out do kill [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their lives. 20 American school children were shot and killed this week- on the very same day. Guns it turns out do kill [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Opening the Overton Window by Fredrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 04:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sir are a complete lunatic. People like you are the problem, you live in a fog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sir are a complete lunatic. People like you are the problem, you live in a fog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material Second Sunday in December 2012- Festival of World of Dickens Lights Fair Edition by The Ridger</title>
		<link>http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2012/12/09/sunday-morning-reading-material-second-sunday-in-december-2012-festival-of-world-of-dickens-lights-fair-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-8649</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ridger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn. I wish people would get over their ideas about tipping and realize that when they walk into a restaurant they have tacitly agreed to pay part of their server&#039;s (and possibly busboy&#039;s) salary. If you aren&#039;t willing to accept that social bargain DON&#039;T EAT OUT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. I wish people would get over their ideas about tipping and realize that when they walk into a restaurant they have tacitly agreed to pay part of their server&#8217;s (and possibly busboy&#8217;s) salary. If you aren&#8217;t willing to accept that social bargain DON&#8217;T EAT OUT.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material Third Sunday in November 2012- Happy Birthday to my Fiancee Edition by Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2012/11/18/sunday-morning-reading-material-third-sunday-in-november-2012-happy-birthday-to-my-fiancee-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-7416</link>
		<dc:creator>Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Birthday Lex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday Lex</p>
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		<title>Comment on Return to Investment by Indignant Desert Birds &#187; Sunday Morning Reading Material Third Sunday in November 2012- Happy Birthday to my Fiancee Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indignant Desert Birds &#187; Sunday Morning Reading Material Third Sunday in November 2012- Happy Birthday to my Fiancee Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] morning folks! So between my recent illness, and my Fiancee&#8217;s birthday (today!), this post is going to be extra [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] morning folks! So between my recent illness, and my Fiancee&#8217;s birthday (today!), this post is going to be extra [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material First Sunday in November 2012- Almost There, Stay on Target Edition by Punning Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.indignantdesertbirds.com/2012/11/04/sunday-morning-reading-material-first-sunday-in-november-2012-almost-there-stay-on-target-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-6995</link>
		<dc:creator>Punning Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read that section, a state can decide to limit the franchise to only brown haired men- but must then give up it&#039;s congressional and electoral representation in proportion to the population that isn&#039;t brown haired men. For instance: if brown haired men are 25% of the population, and a state that has 52 electoral votes limits the right to vote to only men who who have brown hair, that state would see it&#039;s congressional and electoral representation plummet to 13. 

The exception is if that state&#039;s franchise was limited to people who hadn&#039;t participated in rebellion, or weren&#039;t in jail. 

Perhaps, however, I was unclear: I wasn&#039;t referring to legal justification. I was referring to moral justification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read that section, a state can decide to limit the franchise to only brown haired men- but must then give up it&#8217;s congressional and electoral representation in proportion to the population that isn&#8217;t brown haired men. For instance: if brown haired men are 25% of the population, and a state that has 52 electoral votes limits the right to vote to only men who who have brown hair, that state would see it&#8217;s congressional and electoral representation plummet to 13. </p>
<p>The exception is if that state&#8217;s franchise was limited to people who hadn&#8217;t participated in rebellion, or weren&#8217;t in jail. </p>
<p>Perhaps, however, I was unclear: I wasn&#8217;t referring to legal justification. I was referring to moral justification.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material First Sunday in November 2012- Almost There, Stay on Target Edition by little_ribbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>little_ribbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 21:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually curious about the disenfranchisement of felons leading up to this election, and I figured out where in the constitution you can find affirmation that it&#039;s ok. Article 2 of the 14th amendment describes reducing representatives if males over 21 were wrongfully denied the right to vote, &quot;except for participation in rebellion, or other crime&quot;. This has been held to be positive affirmation of felony disenfranchisement (see Richardson v. Ramirez).

I still think it should be scaled back and severely limited, though not necessarily abolished entirely. Just because it&#039;s constitutional doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s right to disenfranchise all felons. We strip a lot of civil rights from certain criminals, especially liberty and privacy (both in prison and after release), and effectively kick them out of civil society. This is certainly over-applied to those who never were or no longer are a threat to others. However I think an argument can be made that that, for example, a violent repeat offender has already effectively excluded themselves from civil society through their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually curious about the disenfranchisement of felons leading up to this election, and I figured out where in the constitution you can find affirmation that it&#8217;s ok. Article 2 of the 14th amendment describes reducing representatives if males over 21 were wrongfully denied the right to vote, &#8220;except for participation in rebellion, or other crime&#8221;. This has been held to be positive affirmation of felony disenfranchisement (see Richardson v. Ramirez).</p>
<p>I still think it should be scaled back and severely limited, though not necessarily abolished entirely. Just because it&#8217;s constitutional doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s right to disenfranchise all felons. We strip a lot of civil rights from certain criminals, especially liberty and privacy (both in prison and after release), and effectively kick them out of civil society. This is certainly over-applied to those who never were or no longer are a threat to others. However I think an argument can be made that that, for example, a violent repeat offender has already effectively excluded themselves from civil society through their actions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material Second Sunday in November 2012- Let America be America Again Edition by Muton of the Sea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muton of the Sea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 03:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck yeah! I want that poster. P.S. You GO, Washington (the state! )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck yeah! I want that poster. P.S. You GO, Washington (the state! )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday Morning Reading Material Second Sunday in November 2012- Let America be America Again Edition by Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice weave. I really enjoyed this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice weave. I really enjoyed this.</p>
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